The committee opens with an acknowledgement of country and expresses condolences for Dr. Helen Haines following a recent attack, while also addressing administrative hearing matters.
Speakers: Varun Ghosh, Unknown Speaker, Hon Murray Watt
IntegrityPublic safetyVarun GhoshUnknown SpeakerHon Murray WattSenate Environment and Communications Legislation CommitteeSupplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Environment and Communications Legislation Committee, 26 Oct 20263
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Varun Ghosh
open this hearing of the environment andcommunications legislation committee ofthe Senate into 2026 2027 budgetestimates and I begin by acknowledgingthe traditional custodians of the landon which we meet and pay our respects toelders past, present and emerging.At this point, I'd like to speak onbehalf of the committee in sending ourthoughts to our colleague, the memberfor Indai, Dr. Helen Haines MP, herfamily, her team and her community asshe continues to recover in hospital. Uhthe attack against Dr. Haines on Mondaylast week was horrific. Uh and I knowthat many including myself have come tothis place u distressed by that attackand also in shock at what has happenedto our colleague and our friend andHelen remains uh in all of our thoughts.Dr. Haines is much loved as a colleaguehere, a strong advocate for hercommunity in Indai uh and as a robustcivil and kind participant in ourdemocracy. Uh contributionswill be made in the House ofRepresentatives today from 10:00 a.m.and the committee will suspend to enablesenators to attend the first of thesestatements. Uh as a mark of respect forDr. Haines, I do note that uh there area number of matters um underinvestigation by the Victorian Police,the Australian Federal Police and AIO.And I ask senators to please be mindfulof this during hearings. Um Dr. Hannesis known to all of us uh as a person ofintegrity, of warmth uh and I saidbefore and and of kindness um andsomeone who conducts public debate in arobust but respectful manner. Um aschair I will be taking this context uhfor our hearings here today andtomorrow. Uh and I'm sure uh my fellowsenators join with me uh in this spirituh and with Dr. Haines in our minds.the committee has fixed Thursday 17December 2026 as the date for return ofanswers to questions on notice. Uhbefore I commence today's proceedingswith the corporate matters and generalquestions of climate change, energy,environment, and water uh in an unusualmove, we are in a position this morningto release the Australian EnergyInfrastructure Commissioner uh fromtheir attendance at estimates today. uhand uh they go with our thanks.We now proceed to corporate matters andgeneral questions of climate change,energy, the environment and waterportfolio. Understanding order 26, thecommittee must take all evidence inpublic session and this includes answersto questions on notice. I remind allwitnesses that in giving evidence to thecommittee they are protected byparliamentary privilege. It is unlawfulfor anyone to threaten or disadvantage awitness on account of evidence given toa committee and such action may betreated by the Senate as a contempt. Itis also a contempt to give false ormisleading evidence to the Senate. TheSenate has endorsed the following testof relevance of questions at estimateshearings. Any questions going to theoperations or financial positions of thedepartments and agencies which areseeking funds in estimates are relevantquestions for the purposes of estimateshearings. I remind officers that theSenate has resolved that there are noareas in connection with the expenditureof public funds where any person has adiscretion to withhold details orexplanations from the parliament or itscommittees unless the parliament hasexpressly provided otherwise. The Senatehas resolved also that an officer of adepartment of the Commonwealth shall notbe asked to give opinions on matters ofpolicy and should not and shall be givenreasonable opportunity to referquestions asked to the officer tosuperior officers or to a minister. Thisresolution does not preclude questionsasking for explanations of uh policiesor factual questions about when or howpolicies were adopted. Witnesses arereminded of the Senate order specifyingthe process by which a claim of publicinterest immunity should be raised. Iincorporate the public interest immunitystatement into Hansard. An officercalled to answer a question for thefirst time should state their full nameand the capacity in which they appear.Uh mobile phones should be switched tosilent and name plates should be placedin front of the microphone uh prior toUh senators are aware that one of theroles of the committee chair is toensure that proceedings are conducted inan orderly way. This is not intended toprevent rigorous questioning ofwitnesses but to help to ensure thatsenators exercise their rights andprivileges in a careful civil andresponsible manner. I also remindsenators of their obligations under thebehavior code for Australianparliamentarians to treat witnesses withdign dignity, courtesy, fairness andrespect. Uh as chair I intend to upholdSenators are also reminded thatquestions relating to a bill may beasked during estimates where theyconcern the operations, administration,or financial position of a department oragency. But questions about the meaning,purpose, intention, or effect ofspecific provisions of a bill that isthe subject of a separate inquiry beforethe Senate should be pursued throughthat inquiry process rather than duringestimates hearings. Uh these are publichearings being video streamed live viathe parliament's website and a handardtranscript is being made. If there areno objections, the committee authorizesmedia and photography uh media recordingand photography of the committee'sproceedings in accordance withbroadcasting resolution three and Iremind media that this permission may berevoked at any time and that media inthe room must follow the direction ofsecretariat staff. Um I have one furtheradmin matter which is that um we will umnot haveuh AMO appearing before us uh in theprogram today uh as a as a result of afurther update uh beforeand I think that's the lastadministrative matter I have to dealwith. I now welcome um Senator theHonorable Mari Watt, Minister for theEnvironment um representing the Ministerfor Climate Change and Energy. UMinister, did you wish to make an
Hon Murray Watt
opening statement? I don't chair butgood to see you all.
Varun Ghosh
>> Thank you minister. I also welcome Mr.Mike Kaiser the secretary of thedepartment of climate change energy theenvironment and water. Mr. Kaiser do youwish to make an opening statement?