Discussion regarding the financial modeling and installation data underpinning the government's home battery program and its total expenditure over time.
Speakers: Hon Sarah Henderson, Paul Johnson, Unknown Speaker
Energy storageGovernment spendingHon Sarah HendersonPaul JohnsonUnknown SpeakerSenate Environment and Communications Legislation CommitteeSupplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Environment and Communications Legislation Committee, 26 Oct 202622144
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Hon Sarah Henderson
wanted to go back to Mr. Johnson on themodeling which underpins theso-called cheaper home batteriesUm Mr. Johnson, thanks for your effortsto answer these questions directly. Uhcan I just clarify with you the modelingthat's been undertaken you've taken iton notice to provide that modeling.Does the estimate in the Fords inrelation to the cheaper home batteriesprogram support what the modeling
Paul Johnson
>> I believe so. Yes. I'm not familiar withthe modeling. It was undertaken prior tomy association with the program but I
Hon Sarah Henderson
>> Okay. Thank you. Uhso the 25 to the so just wanting to findout for this financial year how much ofthis financial year has been spent to
Paul Johnson
the expenditure to uh to the 27th ofSeptember is $677.5
Hon Sarah Henderson
And what's got what's the totalexpenditure over the life of theprogram?>> Is that is that changed at all from the8.5 billion?
Paul Johnson
>> 8.5 billion.
Hon Sarah Henderson
>> So it's remaining at 8.5. Are you umconfident that there won't need to befurther changes to the program to keepit within the 8.5 billion?>> based on your work obviously.
Paul Johnson
Well, we are seeing the uh the level ofinstallations fall and uh from lastyear's levels and we've seen the averagesize of batteries fall. The program doeshave the step downs every six months inum the level of uh assistance. Um it issomething we continue to monitor workingwith the CE and umon the basis of that it's something wewe'll continue to make judgments about.
Hon Sarah Henderson
So, Senator Smith asked about thisprogram before lunch. The evidence wasthere was very little information aboutbattery installations when the programwas conceived prior to the 1st of Maydesign change. Was the departmentgetting adequate installationinformation from the clean energy
Paul Johnson
Uh yes. Uh prior to the start of theprogram in July of last year, there wasno centralized um collection of dataabout batteries. We believe there weresomething like 300,000 batteriesinstalled in Australia. um in the yearsprior to the 1st of July since theprogram has been established um in orderto participate um people have to reportwhen they apply for um assistance. Sowe've got very good data from the cleanenergy regulator. Um the clean energyregulator reports that data to us on a