Snowy Hydro CEO Dennis Barnes provides an opening statement detailing the cost reassessment of Snowy 2.0 to $22.2 billion and the transition from a fixed-price contract to an incentivized target cost model.
Topics: Renewable energy, Energy storage, Government spending
Renewable energyEnergy storageGovernment spendingDennis BarnesVarun GhoshSenate Environment and Communications Legislation CommitteeSupplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Environment and Communications Legislation Committee, 26 Oct 202626716
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Varun Ghosh
Hydro Limited. Uh welcome. Uh and Iwelcome uh Mr. Dennis Barnes, the chiefexecutive officer. Um and if you'd liketo give uh an opening statement and thenI'll turn to questions.
Dennis Barnes
>> Thank you chair. Uh thank you for theopportunity today. I'd like toacknowledge the honorable people onwhose land we are meeting.We've released the outcome of the costreassessment for Snowy 2.0 which sets atarget cost of 22.2 billion and a costscenario of 25 billion. I understandthis is extremely disappointed. I sharethat disappointment.Snowy 2 is an immensely complex project.There are more than 5,000 people workingdirectly on the project. They areworking hard and efficiently and makingAmongst other things, it wasunderestimated how many people we neededand for how long. Snowy 2 costs are 80%people related.In 2023, Snowy 2 was effectivelystalled. Local suppliers weren't beingpaid and 4 billion of contractor claimssat on the table. This was recognized bythe previous management and a cash flowsupport agreement was in place tosupport our contractor.The original fixedpric contract forSnowy 2 had failed. It was not the righttype of contract for this project'sunique scale and complexity and theresultant risk.This list of claims was growing,inflamed by the unproductive andadversarial relationship between SnowyHydro and our contractor.We would be in a worse position today ifwe did not reset the contract.At the reset, we moved to a moreconventional contract type called anincentivized target cost model or ITC.At the reset, the contractor receivedreceived zero margin for their work toThat reset gives Snowy open bookvisibility on risk and cost whichprompted the cost reassessment.Under a fixed price contract, we wouldnot have had the visibility to know wehad a problem nor the ability to takecorrective action.The new contract has been characterizedas a cost plus contract. This is not anaccurate way to describe the contractwhich is a very common contract forcomplex mega projects in Australia forgood reason. ITC contracts incentifiesefficient delivery. Our contractorstands to make more money if thedelivery and efficiency targets areexceeded and conversely be penalized ifBut it also also allows unexpectedadditional costs to be accommodated sothat delivery progress can can continueonly when they are verified and agreedupon by both parties as well as by ourindependent cost auditors.Under the ITC model, productivitydoubled within 12 months. We arediscussing a very disappointing costincrease but in a context of a projectthat is making progress. We are 95% ofthe way through the drill and blasttunnels. That figure was around 15% atthe reset. We are 65% of the way throughthe tunnel boring machine tunnels. Wewere 19% at the reset. We are 90% of theway through excavation of the powerstation caverns large enough to fit theSydney Opera House and we wereeffectively at 0% at reset.Snowy 2 will be a national assetdesigned to operate for 150 years,providing more than half of the grid'sIn addition to the return Snowy Hydrowill make on Snowy 2 and the enabling of67,000 megawatts of renewables, it willunderpin reliability,lower wholesale prices by 7 billion inthe first few decades and contributemore than $18 billion to the economythrough construction.We've largely overcome the designimmaturity at the final investmentdecision. That is the root cause formost of the project's cost increases.At the point of the reset, only 44% ofthe construction design was complete.Today, that figure is 96%In a project of this nature, there willalways be risk. However, we are now muchfurther progressed than we were, and therisk exposure is reducing. So, thank youagain for the opportunity to meet todayand I welcome your questions.