Regulatory Lessons from CCTV Abuse Evidence

Senate Education and Employment Legislation Committee, , 8:04:27 to 8:10:11

Following a Four Corners report on abuse in childcare, the committee discusses the limitations of CCTV as a preventative tool and the sharing of safety lessons between different regulatory systems for services both within and outside the National Quality Framework.

Topics: Child safety, Law reform

Speakers: Senator Matt O'Sullivan, Speaker 22, Ms. Kylie Crane, Senator Marielle Smith, Speaker 14

Transcript

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

The four corners showed CCTV footage capturing serious assaults on children at a center in the up in the Cape in Janu. Uh what lessons does Aqua believe the sector and regulators should take from cases where CCTV provides evidence of abuse but may not prevent

Speaker 22

Uh, Senator, I think the um the CCTV evaluation report will go to those matters and certainly we will um stand by for the decision of governments in relation to that report and then look at what actions we may be uh expected to take by EMM um in relation to those areas

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> was um engineering outside of the NQF.

Speaker 22

Yes, Senator.

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> So, so you would had to live in a direct authority over that service in

Speaker 22

>> That's correct, Senator.

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

what what arrangements then should exist to share child safety lessons between NQF and services regulated under other

Speaker 22

>> Uh, Senator, I think the question of of out of scope services um is really a matter still for governments. We obviously uh work closely to um provide resources and guidance where necessary, where we can um where those uh uh areas cut across both the NQF and out of scope services. Um but I would say that it really is a matter for um further consideration of governments.

Ms. Kylie Crane

>> Um Senator, if I may add um uh and the service that you referenced um is regulated uh under by the Queensland government. uh when it comes to uh matters that were discussed in the previous session around the engagement between uh Commonwealth regulators and state and territory regulators certainly um the the services we've just talked about in terms of community childcare fund restricted they would be part of that conversation as a funer um and in many instances state as regulator that information is shared um as and where

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> Thank you. And just finally on a slightly different well very different topic um in rel going back to earlier was discussing the national child safety training modules with the department. What role does the SQA have with that? Do you the host of the

Speaker 22

>> No Senator we're not

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> right. So um were you have you had any involvement in it at all?

Speaker 22

>> Uh we were consulted as part of the development of the package um that was led by governments.

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

Uh so and so the the contract with the provider is directly with the department

Ms. Kylie Crane

with from the Queensland um department of education with the Australian Center for Child Protection.

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

good. Good. Uh just checking someone's going to message me to see if I can let you go. Yep, I can let you go. Thank you

Senator Marielle Smith

at all, but

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> Oh, sorry. Sorry chair over stepping up my bounds and to your

Senator Marielle Smith

officers for your evidence today.

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> I am standing in the way though if going. >> I do have some power.

Senator Marielle Smith

>> Thank you. They're already gone.

Senator Matt O'Sullivan

>> Thank you everyone.

Senator Marielle Smith

>> Thank you. Um I'm now calling officers from outcome to higher education. Would you suspend again for one minute whilst we bring them to the table? get underway. Um, so we're broadcasting again and we are at outcome to higher education research and international and uh I'll be starting the call with Senator Scarr.

Speaker 14

>> Senator Sullivan. Yeah, sorry. Just we've we've changed gears very quickly so find my right page.

Senator Marielle Smith

>> I can go to Senator Dolega who has a short um block on closing the gap. I believe

Speaker 14

>> I can uh get that for you, too. Just give me a a moment.