The committee discusses data from a Four Corners report regarding the prevalence of for-profit early learning services and how the government ensures child safety and quality when providers face competing commercial pressures.
Speakers: Senator Fatima Payman, Ms. Kylie Crane, Unknown Speaker
EducationChild safetySenator Fatima PaymanMs. Kylie CraneUnknown SpeakerSenate Education and Employment Legislation CommitteeSupplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Education and Employment Legislation Committee, 29 Oct 202626556
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Senator Fatima Payman
>> Thank you. Uh just on the four cornersuh episode um I understand that FourCorners displayed a figure stating that98% of new early learning servicesopened over the past two years wereforprofit. Does the department confirm
Ms. Kylie Crane
>> Uh Senator, we'd have to take that onnotice. I I suspect what has um occurredin that is that they're looking atpotentially some of the data that a SQAhas. we wouldn't have that in our
Senator Fatima Payman
do you know what the breakdown offorprofit and not for profit?
Ms. Kylie Crane
>> Not over that period that you'rereferencing. No, we'd have to take it onnotice.
Senator Fatima Payman
>> Uh, thank you.The Commonwealth directs substantialpublic money uh into the for-profitsystem through the childcare subsidy. uhwhen a corporate early learning providerfaces pressure, more margins uh andreturns while also deciding what itspends on uh you know whether that'squalified educators, supervision andquality, what guarantees that the childchild's interest win in that situationwhen they've got competing priorities.
Ms. Kylie Crane
Senator, um I think as we've giventestimony today and in previoushearings, uh no matter the provider sizeor type, um all governments have anexpectation of quality serviceprovision. Um whilst there might beindividual business decisions madewithin those entities, um theexpectation is that those services aresafe uh and quality. Some of the changesthat uh minister's agreed to and it wasimplemented in national law um earlierthis year go to the um paramountcyprinciple where any decision that he'smade uh by a board or others responsiblefor that entity need to take that intoconsideration in the decisions that theyare making about staffing about layoutsabout program design food choice etc.