Examination of comments made by US Congressman Michael McCaul regarding the likelihood of US Virginia-class submarines carrying nuclear weapons during rotations.
Speakers: David Shoebridge, Meghan Quinn, Unknown Speaker
ADFNational securityInternational lawDavid ShoebridgeMeghan QuinnUnknown SpeakerSenate Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Legislation CommitteeSupplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Legislation Committee, 29 Oct 202614758
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David Shoebridge
>> Um sorry I I missed that previousengagement on the way over here. Umcould I ask you about um uh commentsthat were made um by the former chairmanof the US House of Foreign AffairsCommittee uh US Congressman MichaelMcCall who met I think with the primeminister, the defense minister and theforeign minister when he visited here afew months ago. Who would be best placedto answer these questions?
Meghan Quinn
>> Uh you might need to just go for thetopic that they that you discussed. Um
David Shoebridge
well um uh either just before or justafter those meetings um CongressmanMcCall the the former chairman of the USHouse Foreign Affairs Committee um whois here on a congressional delegationum said that it was logical to assumeum there are his words logical to assumethat some US Virginia class submarinesrotating through HMAS Sterling inWestern Australia from 2032 onwardswould be carrying nuclear weapons.Um is um is US Congressman McCall
Meghan Quinn
>> So uh you you are talking about aforeign official um providing uh anopinion. Um we you know uh we we havejust also had an extensive conversationabout the position regarding uhAustralia's uh obligations under thetreaty of Reratonga.>> I'm aware of that. and also uh the um USposition of not confirming or denyingthe the presence of nuclear weapons ontheir platforms. Um and so I I have wewe well I certainly have nothing furtherto add to the evidence that we'vealready provided.
David Shoebridge
>> Well, did um the congressman make thatclear um in his meetings with thedefense minister? Um and I point outthis is not just any congressman. He wascoming here as part of an officialdelegation to talk amongst other thingsOrcus. He's the former chairman of theUS House Foreign Affairs Committee. Umdid he advise the defense minister indiscussions with the defense ministerthat it would be logical to assume thatsome US Virginia class submarinesrotating through HMA Sterling in WesternAustralia um from 2032 onwards would becarrying nuclear weapons. Did he saythat to the defense minister?