The committee opens with procedural acknowledgments and pays tribute to Dr. Helen Haines following a recent attack, emphasizing her integrity and contribution to parliament.
Speakers: Senator Karen Grogan, Speaker 3, Mr Henry Pike, Unknown Speaker
IntegrityPublic safetySenator Karen GroganSpeaker 3Mr Henry PikeUnknown SpeakerSenate Finance and Public Administration Legislation CommitteeSupplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee, 26 Oct 20269
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Senator Karen Grogan
the 2026 27 supplementary budgetestimates. I begin by acknowledging thetraditional custodians of the land onwhich we meet today and pay my respectsto their elders past and present andextend that respect to ainal andtouristra islander people here today.The committee has set Thursday the 5thof November 2026 as the date by whichsenators are to submit written questionson notice and Thursday the 17th ofDecember 2026 is the date for the returnof answers to questions taken on notice.The committee's proceedings today willbegin with the parliamentary departmentsfollowed by the prime minister andcabinet portfolio as listed on today'sprogram. Understanding order 26, thecommittee must take all evidence inpublic session and this includes answersto questions on notice. I remind allwitnesses that in giving evidence tocommittee they are protected byparliamentary privilege. It is unlawfulfor anyone to threaten or disadvantage awitness on account of evidence given toa committee and such action may betreated by the Senate as a contempt. Itis also contempt to give false ormisleading evidence. The Senate hasendorsed the following test of relevancefor questions at estimates hearings. Anyquestion going to the operational orfinancial position of the departmentsand agencies which are seeking funds andestimates are relevant questions for thepurpose of estimates hearings. I remindofficers that the Senate has resolvedthat there are no areas in connectionwith the expenditure of public fundswhere any person has discretion towithhold details or explanations fromthe parliament or its committees unlessthe parliament has expressly providedotherwise. The Senate has resolved thatan officer of a department of theCommonwealth should not be asked to giveopinions on matters of policy and shallbe given reasonable opportunity to referquestions asked of the officer tosuperior officers or to a minister. Thisresolution does not preclude questionsasking for explanation of policies orfactual questions about when and howpolicies were adopted.Witnesses are reminded of the Senateorder specifying the process by which aclaim of public interest in immunityshould be raised and I incorporate thepublic immunity statement into theHansard. I remind senators of theirobligation under the behavior code forAustralian parliamentarians to treatwitnesses with dignity, courtesy,fairness, and respect. And as is myusual practice, I have provided copiesof that code in the room for people'sreference.before we begin, I would like to um onbehalf of the committee uh send ourthoughts to our colleague, the memberfor Indai, Dr. Helen Haines, and also toher family and her team and hercommunity as she continues to recover inThe attack against Dr. Hannes on Mondaylast week was a horrendous um incidentand quite horrific and I know that wehave all come back to this place um insome level of distress and shock.Dr. Haines is much loved um as acolleague here and as a strong advocatefor her community and for democracy inContributions will be made in the Houseof Representatives this morning from10:00 a.m. and the committee willsuspend at 9:50 to enable members toattend and pay their respects.I note that investigations are underwayby the Victorian Police, by the AFP, andby AIO, and I ask senators to please bemindful of this during these hearings.Dr. Mr. Haines is known to all of us asa person of extreme integrity andsomeone who conducts public debate in arobust but respectful manner. As chair,I will be taking this spirit on board uhwith some gusto today. Um and I have nodoubt that my fellow senators will joinme um in paying that respect to Dr.I would welcome the president, senator,the honorable Selines, um, the clerk,Mr. Pi, and other officers of thedepartment of the Senate. Um, I I willfirst say, um, it is with great sadnessthat I acknowledge this is your lastestimates with us, Mr. Pi.
Mr Henry Pike
>> That steals the thunder from my, uh,potential opening statement.
Senator Karen Grogan
>> Oh, right.>> But thank you. Let me uh let me not goany further then and leave you to that.Um and any further comments I might makePresident, would you care to make anopening statement and steal some more ofMr. P's thunder?
Speaker 3
>> I won't in relation to Mr. Pike otherthan to add that it is his birthdaytoday as well. So he will hate me forinforming the committee of that. ButI'll make some comments after the clerhas made his comments. But I would liketo join my parliamentary colleagues andparliamentary departments in reaffirmingthat our thoughts remain with Dr. HelenHaines, her family, friends, staff andcommunity. And um I acknowledge Helenherself. She is held in great regardacross this parliament. Um we thank herfor her integrity, her decency and hercommitment to the people she represents.her contribution to this parliament isgreatly valued and um I stand withHelen, her family, her staff and hercommunity at this difficult time. Thanks