Analysis of the $2.3 million regulatory efficiency charge intended to fund ongoing process improvements, such as electronic certification and audit systems.
Topics: Export cost recovery, Government IT systems
Speakers: Tina Hutcherson, Speaker 5, Speaker 1, Speaker 19, Speaker 9, Ms. Tina Hutcherson, Speaker 12, Speaker 20
Export cost recoveryGovernment IT systemsTina HutchersonSpeaker 5Speaker 1Speaker 19Speaker 9Ms. Tina HutchersonSpeaker 12Speaker 20Senate Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Legislation CommitteeAdditional Estimates 2025–26Senate Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Legislation Committee, 10 Feb 20265523
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Ms. Tina Hutcherson
function. Is that correct? uh that waspart of the agreement of government.Yes.
Speaker 5
>> What's the what's that mean? What does
Ms. Tina Hutcherson
regulatory efficiency mean?>> So, it's a a stream of ongoing fundingto ensure that regulatory functionsdelivered by the department remain fitfor purpose um and can be adapted andchanged into an environment. So the costrecovery arrangement is currently set todeliver the business as is um and overtime as umeveryone understands and we get feedbackas do you from um our industries all thetime about the fitness um for purpose ofthose um arrangements. So this is amechanism to um provide capacity withinthe system to engage with industry anddeliver ongoing improvements and updatesto make sure we remain fit for purposeand don't find ourselves in thesituation where we're we've got a systemor a process that's 10 15 20 years old
Speaker 5
and hasn't kept up kept up>> 2.3 million a year or is that over>> a year?>> 2.3 million a year>> correct?>> Well I mean just I couldn't understand aword of what you're saying to be honest.I what do they actually what does whatdoes the money do>> I think>> and you don't get more efficient there'sno efficiency dividend so what's thewhat what is the point of this money
Ms. Tina Hutcherson
>> it will be invested in improvements toprocesses so for example we have spokenat at these um hearings before senatorabout certification assurance auditsystems where we might have duplicationoverlap um those things are not fit forpurpose they need to be improved andInvestment needs to be made by the thedepartment and industry in improvingthat process to remove complexity fromthe system so that you can haveelectronic certification instead ofmanual certification. You can have umone step in a process rather than threesteps in a process. It is designed toenable the capacity to um continually
Speaker 5
improve the system.>> It sounds like it sounds like when I wasin accounting the code thoughtleadership that's what it is. It's justa it's just a a catch all to cover extra
Ms. Tina Hutcherson
costs.the way so the way this has been um uhdesigned in the in the cost
Speaker 5
>> actually we didn't charge I should saywe didn't charge the thought leadershipwe just that was for internal purposesbut no client would ever pay us forthought leadership they pay us on
Speaker 1
results notconfident getting to the end we couldget the outcome>> such was answering the question isI saw that line of question coming to anend anyway senator can mean more for Um
Speaker 5
well um just on this one. Yes. Um so I'mjust trying to wonder how that's beenset. That the cost base is 60 million.>> No.
Speaker 12
>> No.
Speaker 5
>> How much is the cost?>> The gap is 60 million. The cost>> Oh, the gap is 60 million.
Speaker 19
>> The gap is 60 million. The cost base isabout 190 million.>> 190>> 190 million. It's about2% of the valuethat we get overseas each year.
Speaker 5
>> All right. Um now I have a lot morequestions on this. Um, I'm just justgive me a second to see if I should askany in here because I realize it's umsplit across both. Um,jumping around a little bit.
Speaker 9
Uh,
Speaker 5
yeah. Right. I might leave the others tothe outcome,