Speakers: Melissa Cashman, Hon Bridget McKenzie, Anita Langford, Senator Glenn Sterle

Transcript

Melissa Cashman

Well, we all have a we all have to have security clearance to work in the public service. Um uh Senator, we uh regularly fill out conflict of interest forms uh annually because we're in a regulatory space. we we comply with the uh Australian public service uh uh oversight rules there

Hon Bridget McKenzie

>> and you're taking active steps to ensure that it's not the case >> other than just your APS paperwork when you take on the job or updating your conflict of interest stand you know that department officials working on this are free of foreign interference.

Melissa Cashman

We follow all of the rules of the Australian public service senator. It's a very small team. I know them very well. Uh we all obviously have uh training on how to look or we have we over our time in the public service as we become more senior we we we become aware of looking for the uh way people conduct themselves in the workplace. Um

Anita Langford

>> but I think I would say Senator that um the role of making sure that public servants security clearances are still appropriate um sits uh with the Australian government security vetting um organization and so clearly as managers as Miss Kashman mentioned we've got a responsibility to notice if anything seems arry and refer it um but we don't try to duplicate the role of

Hon Bridget McKenzie

AGAR in any way. Well, the the go slow on this um is exceptional. Exceptional.

Senator Glenn Sterle

>> Okay, I'll flick across to Senator Pop. Take us through to 4:00 to the break.