Speakers: Susan McDonald, Hon Tim Ayres, Varun Ghosh, Mr Mike Kaiser, Unknown Speaker

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Mr Mike Kaiser

>> Well, what well as I said when it comes to jobs by sector, the ABS has is responsible for labor force statistics.

Susan McDonald

question. My question was how many discrete bits of the department of environment is doing this work? So you

Mr Mike Kaiser

>> I think I've just said that we rely on the ads.

Susan McDonald

>> No, I it was it was a different I'm I'm seeking to understand who is mapping the economic element of of structural change to the economy. So we've identified that the jobs bit I'm going to be able to get from ABS. Great. I will go and ask a

Mr Mike Kaiser

>> so so ABS ABS does some of this work

Susan McDonald

>> you I'm trying to understand how the department how you've broken it up in the department what policy how many policy sections there are who are tracking the structural change to the economy whether it's tracking uh emissions um or whether it's tracking um employment we've understood has come from Abears But you're supporting the transition of Australia's economy to net zero emissions by 2050. And I'm trying to understand what effort and what number of FTEEs and how many groups within the department would do that.

Hon Tim Ayres

>> I I guess I guess um uh number one uh the ABS does that work. Number two, Treasury of course does economic analysis uh for the government and that Treasury work says that an orderly transition supports employment growing by 5.1 million people by 2050. Now, of course, um we don't exist in a world where um you know it's a relative

Susan McDonald

>> No, it's not data.

Hon Tim Ayres

>> It it is a relative question. It's not data because it's a projection. So, it's not data. It's a projection.

Susan McDonald

>> I want projections. I want

Hon Tim Ayres

There is $2 trillion of clean energy investment in the world today. We want to capture the maximum amount here.

Varun Ghosh

to have to move the call on Minister if that was the conclusion of your answer. Um I'm conscious that we are running now I think give or take 2 hours behind schedule. Uh, I'm going to move for this outcome to 10-minute blocks at this point and in an endeavor to move through the senators that have questions on this area and move on to our next outcome or next agency as soon as possible. Senator