Senator Sharma asks about the department's role in collating and verifying election commitments for the Major Local Community Infrastructure (MLCI) program following the 2025 federal election.
Topics: Infrastructure, Grants administration, Government spending
Speakers: Blair Exell, Pauline Sullivan, Senator Dave Sharma
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Senator Dave Sharma
Thanks, chair. I have some questionsabout the department's involvement inthe major local community infrastructureIn the um in the infrastructuredepartment's submission to the inquiryinto this major and local communityinfrastructure program, theinfrastructure department said it leerswith the department of the primeminister and cabinet to verify whichcommunity infrastructure commitmentsannounced by the government in both thecontext of the 2025 federal election andthe 2025 PIO would be allocated to thedepartment to implement. So I just wantto understand what role did PMNC have ineither identifying or compiling orcollating or sending a list of MLCIinvitees or projects.
Blair Exell
I can start back a couple of steps. Sothe role of prime minister and cabinetthrough the uh caretaker period or or orthe election period was to um colleateor um p pull together all of theelection commitments made um uh by byparties and individualsum pull those together in into acomprehensive list. Um and I think um mycolleague went through this at the ruraland regional committee last week. umthat that list is is then um shared umas a normal process with with thegovernment uh when when they formgovernment that that occurred in thecontext of the 2025 the May 2025elections uh that list at that point intime just after the election is I guessI would deem um an initial list that'sthat's the best list at that time whichgoes to um an understanding of thegovernment's set election commitmentsand what prime minister cabinet hascollated. Um then there's a process umundertaken by by government um normallythrough a budget process of umauthorizing or giving the policy framingor the policy authority for for thosecommitments. um prime minister andcabinet um throughout that process workswith relevant portfolio departments interms of um which of those commitmentsum should be implemented by whichdepartment. So in this context yes thatthat that was the major um and localinfrastructure projects that went to thedepartment of the infrastructure. I hopethat helps with the broaderrole.
Senator Dave Sharma
>> So that's the role of cabinet[clears throat] division. Your head hada cabinet division. Uh yes, there's the
Pauline Sullivan
um well, we've restructured since the2025 election. Um but the the people whowere doing some of that work straightafter the election so forth have nowbeen moved into my division. So Okay.>> Which is why I'm here.
Senator Dave Sharma
>> Okay. So when was that list>> sent to the infrastructure department?
Pauline Sullivan
>> So I guess um so the list from us postelection.>> Yes. Um it was sent in May
Senator Dave Sharma
>> May 2025.
Pauline Sullivan
>> So as Mr. Exell said um post electionthere's a process of basically doing aquality assurance on the commitments.It's also worth noting that um duringduring election campaigns so PMNC has arole tracking election commitments andthat's across as for all departments allparties who may form government but alsogiven our coord and central coordinatingrole we track all portfolios individualdepartments track their own portfolio umuh commitments made by various parties.So once we've um so once a governmenthas formed and we then meet with thePMO, we work through sort of what theythink has been committed to in terms oftheir election camp commitments, we seehow it lines up with ours and thenthere's a process that once we'vereconciled those, we then go out to alldepartments to check against their listsas well. So it's basically areconciliation process. It's also, as Isaid, is a quality assurance um processas well. given that you'll often getduplicates of commitments or things willbe sort of categorized incorrectly oryou may even have um you know acommitment by by party X that actuallyshould belong to party Y that sort ofthing. So a lot of that process well theentire process is essentially gettingagreement on what the commitments areand are they in the correct portfolio. C
Blair Exell
>> can I add Senator? So I'm also cautiousabout giving an indication it might bewe just take that we'll confirm thatexact date. um on notice because there'sa backwards and forwards element here.So I'm cautious about saying there's afinal notice because what in myexperience both in PMC and outside PMCactually sometimes there's initial hourallocation and then a period[clears throat] later whether it's 3weeks or a month the department saysactually that's not the right fit thatshould be in a different program. So
Pauline Sullivan
>> correct>> or even a different portfolio.
Blair Exell
>> Yeah. So I'm just cautious about kind ofreferring to final lists or final advicebecause there's a backwards and forwardsout element.
Senator Dave Sharma
>> Okay. Well, the the list that youprovided,>> I mean, I conscious that it was aniterative process, but in May 2025, andwe could use that as the referencepoint, did that list include theMarville Golf Club project?