Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee [Part 2]
Senate Estimates hearing,
Searchable transcript of the Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee [Part 2], 26 Oct 2026 Senate Estimates hearing, with chapters: Invitation Process for COP31 Pre-COP Meeting, Confidentiality and Funding of Leader Invitations, Termination of KPMG Internal Audit Contract,…
Chapters
- Invitation Process for COP31 Pre-COP Meeting (0:03)
Senator Hume questions officials from the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet regarding the invitation process for the COP31 pre-COP meeting held in Fiji and Tuvalu, focusing on the number of world leaders invited.
- Confidentiality and Funding of Leader Invitations (7:35)
Discussion continues regarding the confidentiality of the invitation list for the pre-COP event, with officials citing trilateral agreements between Australia, Fiji, and Tuvalu to keep details private despite Australian funding.
- Termination of KPMG Internal Audit Contract (12:55)
Senator Charnowski inquires about the termination of a KPMG contract for internal audit services, exploring the grounds for termination including performance issues and the broader external environment.
- Review of Remaining KPMG Departmental Contracts (18:01)
Officials detail the remaining contracts with KPMG, including FBT services and financial reporting tools, while discussing the department's view on the firm's ethical performance and broader corporate conduct.
- Administration of Local Community Infrastructure Grants (24:55)
Senator Sharma asks about the department's role in collating and verifying election commitments for the Major Local Community Infrastructure (MLCI) program following the 2025 federal election.
- Marrickville Golf Club Project Funding Scope (30:16)
The committee examines the specific grant for the Marrickville Golf Club, focusing on whether the department provided advice regarding the project's scope to address sewage overflows into the Cooks River.
- Inquiry into Reported Cabinet Leadership Group (35:37)
Senator Hume questions the existence and status of a "leadership group" reported in the media, following an FOI request that returned no records of such a body within the cabinet structure.
- Cabinet Briefs and the Leadership Group (40:00)
Senator Hume questions PM&C officials regarding cabinet briefs for the announced immigration policy and the role of a reported 'leadership group' in decision-making.
- Office of Impact Analysis Consultation Periods (45:31)
Officials from the Office of Impact Analysis explain the 30-60 day best practice consultation period and how departments justify departures from this timeframe.
- Self-Assessment in Impact Analysis Framework (48:33)
Discussion on the July 1st framework change where agencies now self-assess the quality of their impact analysis rather than receiving formal OIA assessments.
- Industry Concerns on Inadequate Consultation (52:10)
Senator Hume tables a letter from industry associations raising concerns about 10-12 day consultation periods for complex legislative and regulatory reforms.
- Fuel Security Coordinator and Executive Appointments (1:07:03)
Senator Sharma questions the appointment process for the Deputy Secretary role and the ongoing status of the Fuel Security Coordinator.
- ANAO Opening Statement and Annual Report (1:13:47)
The Auditor-General provides an opening statement covering the ANAO's 2025-26 annual report, audit opinions, and financial sustainability challenges.
- Services Australia Cyber Security Audit (1:19:23)
Senator Hume questions the ANAO regarding a 2024 performance audit into Services Australia's management of critical cyber security incidents.
- Legacy Systems and Incident Reporting Processes (1:26:45)
Examination of legacy systems, the Medicare statistics portal breach, and the use of monitored email addresses for security disclosures.
- Strategic Commissioning Framework and External Labor (1:30:20)
A review of the framework intended to reduce APS reliance on consultants and external labor hire, which the ANAO found only partly effective.
- Core Work Definitions and Agency Incentives (1:36:06)
Discussion on inconsistent definitions of core work across agencies and the lack of incentives to bring work back in-house.
- Procurement Data and Contract Reporting Timelines (1:41:37)
Updates on the timing and scope of upcoming ANAO information reports regarding government procurement and contract amendments.
- Climate and Green Economy Program Analysis (1:44:02)
Inquiry into the number and monetary value of government programs related to climate change, energy, and the green economy.
- Performance Audit Capacity and Resource Constraints (1:51:23)
The ANAO explains reductions in its performance audit targets due to resource constraints and the prioritization of climate-related audits.
- Climate Policy Challenges and Sustainability Reporting (1:53:30)
Discussion on challenges in auditing climate policy, including Scope 3 emissions and sustainability reporting, followed by a committee break.
- Audit of Scope 3 Emissions Reporting (2:12:41)
Senator McDonald questions the ANAO on the definition and auditing of scope 3 emissions for Commonwealth companies, noting the judgment required in reporting.
- Snowy 2.0 Cost and Timeline Revisions (2:15:10)
The ANAO discusses the revised costings for Snowy 2.0, which increased from $6.1 billion to $12 billion, and the status of future performance audits.
- Strategic Commissioning and Labor Savings (2:20:59)
Senator Kim examines the projected $14.8 billion in external labor savings and whether these savings have been realized through the Strategic Commissioning Framework.
- Services Australia Data Breach Compliance (2:25:13)
The committee discusses ANAO findings that 123 of 170 notifiable data breaches at Services Australia were not assessed within the 30-day statutory requirement.
- Legacy Systems and IT Security Controls (2:29:07)
Examination of Services Australia's reliance on aging legacy ICT systems and the slow pace of addressing audit findings related to IT governance and user access.
- Security Threats Against Parliamentarians (2:36:07)
Minister Farrell addresses the attack on Dr. Helen Haines and the broader surge in threats against elected officials, outlining the independent review into parliamentary support.
- Electorate Office Physical Security Standards (2:43:16)
The Department of Finance discusses the review of physical security standards for electorate offices and the process for upgrading security in response to threat assessments.
- Ministerial Discretion in Personal Staffing Allocations (2:51:51)
Discussion regarding the Prime Minister's decision to grant additional staff to specific backbenchers and the lack of legal obligation for equitable processing.
- Senator Payman's Staffing Request and Grievances (2:55:41)
Senator Payman questions the delay in her staffing request, highlighting psychosocial hazards and burnout while comparing her situation to other independent members.
- Technical Solutions for MOP(S) Act Employment (3:04:24)
The department provides an update on resolving the "cease and recommence" issue for staff, involving complex technical fixes to the Parliamentary Expenses Management System.
- Confidentiality of Special Minister of State Meetings (3:08:53)
The Special Minister of State declines to discuss the details of a meeting with Minister Wells, citing the need for privacy and confidentiality in his role.
- Progress Update on Staffing Classification Review (3:11:05)
Officials discuss the completion of the staffing classification review, which considered issues raised during enterprise bargaining and involved surveys of electorate staff.
- AEC Implementation of Electoral Funding Reforms (3:16:04)
The Australian Electoral Commission provides an update on the implementation of complex funding and disclosure reforms and the launch of a new IT system.
- Referendum Compliance Audits and Election Returns (3:24:58)
The committee discusses the status of compliance audits following the referendum and the number of outstanding election returns from organizations and individuals.
- Progress of the Queensland Electoral Redistribution (3:26:31)
The AEC Commissioner provides an update on the timeline for the Queensland redistribution, noting the committee's schedule and the impact of a potential early election on boundaries.