Discussion regarding the Prime Minister's decision to grant additional staff to specific backbenchers and the lack of legal obligation for equitable processing.
Speakers: Senator The Hon Don Farrell, Senator The Hon James McGrath, Unknown Speaker, Speaker 1
Government spendingWorkplace cultureSenator The Hon Don FarrellSenator The Hon James McGrathUnknown SpeakerSpeaker 1Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee [Part 2]Supplementary Budget Estimates 2026–27Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee [Part 2], 26 Oct 202610311
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Speaker 1
>> We rotate. Senator Payman has a coupleof questions. Um, as a block,
Senator The Hon James McGrath
>> I I what I could do is I I've got aquestion that Senator Payman might beinterested in and then I can just seethe floor to Senator Payman. I suspectthat if I can't read Senator Payman, butum I'm going to ask about staffing. So
Speaker 1
>> off you go.
Senator The Hon James McGrath
>> So I'll just do a very quick couple ofquestions. Senator Payman. Um, thankyou, Minister, for the LA lateststaffing table. Um, can I confirmthat it was the decision of the primeministeruh to grantum Senator Tur as a backbencher of ofthe Labor Party uh two additionalpositions, the two personal staffpositions?That that was a decision of the prime
Senator The Hon Don Farrell
Well, um I I think you've got to put itinto context. Um Senator McGrathwhen she was when Senator Tur was partof the um Lambi group. um she wasI'm not exactly sure how this occurredwhether it was an allocation to SenatorLambie that was then shared with SenatorTuruh or an allocation to Senator Tur atthe time she split from Senator Lambie.But um either way um the allocation thatshe now has is as a result of thatdecision not a subsequent decision onher joining the uh the Labor Party. But
Senator The Hon James McGrath
but as a as a backbencher of the Labourum she is two additional staffers thatother backbenches actually regardless oftheir political affiliationuh don't receive.have you uh minister does the primeminister think that's does the primeminister think that's that's fair?
Senator The Hon Don Farrell
>> That's not entire what you've just saidis not entirely accurate. there areother backbenches who have more than thefive allocateduh staff. So thereare some others who have that number. Umunfortunately I I've given away my uhcopies of the uh of the uh
Senator The Hon James McGrath
>> Don't give it to him.>> No, you're sorry. Yes, please.But they have specific roles um ministerum and and where where where I'm comingfrom and I'll proceed to Senator Paymannow through you through you chair isthat>> I suppose it's a it's a matter of equityof of treating like with with like andthat we have a government back venturewho has two additional staff with no
Senator The Hon Don Farrell
>> additional roles. The alternative wouldhave been forMrs. um Senator Tur to have to terminatethose two employees. And I have to sayin the circumstances I think the primeminister made the right decision.
Senator The Hon James McGrath
>> So what was the prime minister'sdecision?
Senator The Hon Don Farrell
>> It was the prime minister's decision toallow her to keep the two appointmentsthat she had previously made.